Phantaman, maybe you should try to better articulate your argument about articulation. I think you just said a quick opinion without realizing how broad it really was.

My thoughts on Legends? I like them, but if they don’t have elbows, knees, hips, and shoulders (Classics 2.0 Legends Warpath) it takes something that really stands out for me to like them (Classics 2.0 Legends Wheelie and Cosmos).

Legends Constructicons? They’ll be bought. Do I like the deluxe \ voyager versions better? Yeah, but deluxe is my favorite size class.

I really like articulation, but I also like small tfs. Heck, my favorite action figure scale has always been about 3 3/4 inches. My favorite animated Optimus is the deluxe cybertron version.

But I do think you’ve got a point, Phantaman. I think Hasbro could do at least shoulders, hips, elbows, and knees on most of their legends. They have done it on some, and barring places where it wouldn’t look awful (like trying to put knees on that legends helicopter mold from those Classics three packs), they could do it on most of them.

But they won’t.

There’s something toy collectors need to understand, and once you do it’ll go a long way towards making you less bitter. HasTak is a company, and is there to make a profit. Just because it so often coincides with making things you like doesn’t mean that it’s their main intention.

Putting knees and elbows on legends figures when they’re part of the transformation? That’s a given. Putting elbows and knees on a legends figure when it’s not needed? That’s a profit loss.

The less pieces they cast, the less the toy costs to produce. Transformers molds aren’t cheap, especially the more intricate ones. Legends figures are supposed to be cheap.

But hey, at least they’ve been doing a great job on the scout class figures!

~Matt Booker

And, saying you hate Legends is the same as saying you hate all the G1 minibots. Bumblbee, Cliffjumper, Cosmos, Powerglide, Warpath,, need I go on? They were all the same size as Legends, and had worse articulation.

To answer your question… I honestly don’t care. Legends can have 3 points of articulation, or they can have 30. You know why? Because they’re freakin’ Legends. They’re meant to be tiny versions of bigger guys, and the bigger guys are (ideally) where the articulation is at. They’re one step removed from World’s Smallest TFs. If you want complexity and detail and articulation and gimmicks, you should get the bigger TFs that have it, not the small guys who sacrifice a lot of it to drastically reduce their size.

So again, I don’t care. I think size is at the core of the Legends class, not articulation. It’s about packing as much as they can of pretty much everything into that tiny frame. To despise them for a lack in one area means you’re not appreciating that they can deliver in varying degrees from multiple areas at such a small size… basically, I think you’re missing the forest for the trees on this one.

Now you get to answer my question: how do you hate an entire size class for inconsistency in articulation, but not hate all size classes, seeing as they are all just as (and often more) inconsistent?

Or in other, blunter words, why do you limit your narrow judgment to only one size class when you could apply your ridiculous logic across the board and irrationally hate all Transformers?

Inconsistency (in just about any possible area) is one of the constants of pretty much any toyline. To blanket-hate an entire segment of a toyline for inconsistency, but not apply that to the rest of the line (or to all toys, really) is just irrational hating for it’s own sake.

Of course, you even admit that “some are okay”, so you’re not even bothering to stand behind your statement, let alone argue it… but then you say “they suck”, blanket-hating again.

Ironically, you aren’t being consistent in your opinion on consistency.

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universe minibots look at hotrod he should have elbows at least!

that okay? better than YOUR WRONG! see reasons are there why they suck :pppp