Seriously – Author Taint

Today, dear readers, I’ve got something serious to talk about. I don’t do that too often here on MattBooker.info, because I like to keep things fun. When you start talking serious, not everyone comes away happy. Sure, I probably offend more than a fair share of sensitive readers who think Transformers and sex jokes just shouldn’t be illustrated by a shirtless minimate being rubbed down with pineapple oil by a big yellow robot. After all, not everyone likes pineapples.

Wait, what were we talking about again?

Oh yeah! So, if that’s the way I like it around here, why would I bring up something serious?

Because there are some serious things worth talking about.

Don’t worry, I promise I won’t bring up stuff like this all the time. There’s plenty of other places for people to go if they want to argue\affirm politics, religion, or zombie robot apocalypses.

But every now and then, I want to say something about serious things.

Honestly, I’m a pretty introspective guy. I’m an author, so it kind of comes with the territory. I brood, I mull, and I think about stuff a lot. Don’t mistake me for an angsty emo kid, mind you, there’s substance to this stuff, and I’d still rather laugh than worry.

A lot of people come here to see how to improve their tiny plastic giant robots. At least a few of those stick around to hear what I have to say about stuff. At some point, it’s not conceited of me to figure those people might like me enough to hear what I have to say about other stuff, too. I keep it pretty friendly around here, and friends talk about lots of things, so why not?

At the very least, it’s just another form of entertainment.

But what if, dear reader, what if I say something that changes your opinion of me? What if I believe something that is so incompatible with your world view that you just can’t stand to talk to me anymore, let alone read about other things I have to say? Wouldn’t that be awful?

Maybe?

I guess I couldn’t blame them too much. Everybody has their own opinions on stuff, and sometimes the really big opinions are based on the foundations of a person’s whole moral view.

For instance, I can be friends with a person who disagrees with me on a political subject, even if it’s one that I have a strong opinion about, because a person is more than just their politics. If they weren’t, then I probably wouldn’t want to be friends with such a two-dimensional person anyway. And because I’m friends with them, I have to believe that they’re doing what they think is right, even if I think it’s misguided.

But what if that person thought that the holocaust didn’t happen, or was a member of the KKK? I don’t think I could be friends with that kind of person, because of those opinions.

But what if it wasn’t a friend that you found that out about, but your favorite band? Or your favorite author? Or your favorite comic book artist? Or your favorite movie director?

And after all that buildup, we get to the subject of today’s Seriously post: Author Taint.

Yes. I specifically said ‘taint’ so that I could giggle about it.

You see, the whole friendships thing is a given, that we get along better with people who have similar opinions on things, and that if someone’s an asshole then you’re not likely to want to be around them much. But what if that asshole isn’t your friend, but someone who puts out a product that you enjoy?

Does that taint your enjoyment of that product?

I suppose the first thing to consider about that is, do you even pay attention to the person behind the product in the first place?

I may say that I like a band, but really I just mean that I like a lot of their songs. I don’t follow the personal lives of the members, or even pay much attention to their lineup, so it doesn’t bother me if the only two members I can name from Metallica are ones the internet tells me are jerks.

I’m aware that some people follow bands like some housefraus follow soap operas, but that’s a much more personal producer\consumer relationship, to the point where– just like a friendship –if the producer is an asshole then you don’t want to hang around them. That makes sense because you’re invested in the person behind the product.

What I’m really wanting to talk about, though, is what happens when you’re more invested in the product than the person.

Lets take authors for an example. If you read a fiction book and really like it, you’re probably going to remember the name of the author. You’re also probably going to look up more books by that author, because you want more of that kind of book.

It’s the kind of book that you’re looking for, not so much the author. Unless it personally matters to you if the author is six foot one, has 17 inch biceps, and luxurious hair. I certainly couldn’t blame you if that’s a thing you like, but the whole point of a book of fiction is the story and the style.

Is the author white, black, or somewhere in between? For most people, that doesn’t matter. As long as the story and the style are good, that’s what matters.

But the examples I’ve mentioned so far are pretty harmless. If the race of an author matters to the reader, that reader is probably a jackass. If a reader prefers books by an author with big arms and awesome hair, well, that reader has excellent taste.

So… What then, dear reader, if some of your favorite books were written by a dude who turned out to be racist against whatever race you happen to be? Or you met the guy and he was just a complete jackass?

That’s not an easy thing to answer.

Now, before we go any further, I should address something else. When man truly creates something, part of the maker is reflected in what’s made.

Re-read that sentence. Think about it. If it’s something born of passion, that passion will show through. If it’s something phoned in for the sake of a paycheck, the apathy will show through.

But that doesn’t mean all aspects of the person are reflected in the product.

And that’s an important distinction. Man is, by our inescapable nature, multifaceted, complex. Some aspects of ourselves may be black and white, but our whole is a myriad shade of gray.

So, some guy that hates Canadians might still write a beautiful song. That guy’s taint might never have touched that song.

Unless he wrote it in the nude or something.

What? I couldn’t help it, alright. It’s one of my many facets.

What I mean is, I’m a pervert just because a person is a jerk, the products they make don’t have to be jerky. That’s not to say they won’t always be like that, as the stronger a person feels about something then the more likely it will be to show up in a personal creation, but that doesn’t have to be the case.

And for the purposes of this post, the untainted kind is the product I’m talking about. If a guy that hates gay people writes books that hate gay people, well, that’s obvious. But what if that guy just wrote good books, free of his gay taint?

Okay, okay. I’ll try to stop working in the word taint.

No, I won’t.

But that whole anti-gay author \ books that don’t have anything to do with gay people thing is actually what got me thinking about this. Well, thinking about it moreso.

Recently, I saw a link to http://skipendersgame.com/. If you can’t tell from the url itself, that’s a website asking people to skip seeing the movie Ender’s Game, because Orson Scott Card is outspoken about his anti-gay opinions.

Now, I’m of the opinion that a person is a person regardless of their sexual orientation, but this post isn’t about debating that. I’m just mentioning it  so you know where I’m coming from.

Because I’ve read Ender’s Game, and there’s nothing in it that I’d consider anti-gay.

And, let me make this clear, I didn’t even like Ender’s Game. That’s a subject better left for another post, but I wanted that to be known so people don’t think I’m a fanboy for it.

So the author is anti-gay, but the author’s book isn’t. Does that equate to ‘Buying a ticket to the movie based on the book means you support the anti-gay author.’?

I don’t think so.

He’s probably already been paid, but if the movie is popular they’ll want to make a sequel, so he’ll benefit from it… but so will all the people that worked on the movie. And if you don’t think there were a bunch of gay people working on that movie, you don’t know much about Hollywood.

Or maybe not, but that’s the impression the internet has given.

But even more important than that, is that the product isn’t anti-gay. If it’s a good story and especially if it’s one that you liked already, it seems a shame to not enjoy it.

When someone makes a product, and then sets that product loose on the world, it becomes something more than just a thing made by a guy, especially if it’s a story. A book is different for each person that reads it, after all. Sure, the written word is the same, and details are the same at their base, but each of those things is seen differently in the mind of the reader. I can say a character’s hair is red, or even a copper-colored rust, but what I see in my head might be different from what the reader sees in theirs. I try my best to carefully set things to stir emotions in my readers, but the depth and clarity of those emotions still has a lot to do with them.

And it works for movies too. A Twilight movie will cause angsty tweens and lonely mothers to obsessively enjoy it, but most people will feel angry about having paid for the movie ticket will react somewhat differently. That movie has become something more than it was originally, because the world experiences it, takes hold of it.

So if a product, especially a story, is more than just the person who made it, why worry about that person’s conflicting morals?

The answer is that you shouldn’t worry about them.

And that’s not even getting into the whole thing about differing morals from differing time periods. What if Mary Shelly was secretly a proponent of human\horse marriages? Would you swear off every Frankenstein movie? Or does it make it easier to ignore because she’s not around to benefit from your movie ticket sale?

It’s easy to feel guilt about things, or to feel like you’ve got a righteous cause when morals are at stake, but you have to be careful that you’re not just tilting at windmills.

 

Don’t skip Ender’s Game because you’re mad at the guy who wrote the book the movie is based on.

Skip Ender’s Game because the movie looks awful.

~Matt Booker

16 thoughts on “Seriously – Author Taint

  1. I think you missed some of the taint that’s in Ender’s Game. But also I think you misunderstand “minority politics”.

    A statement like this: ” If the race of an author matters to the reader, that reader is probably a jackass.”

    Comes off as extremely callous. A lot of minorities are genuinely deprived of positive role models and representations of their race, culture, gender, sexuality etc. in media. So for example, some one who is moved by the work of Spike Lee, may be so because they share a common experiences and he provides insights into a shared culture. In a case like this, Race is a HUGE reason why the reader/viewer is invested in that work. And calling them a “Jackass” (even indirectly) is dismissive and and shows a certain ignorance of what moves minority demographics.

    In fact, this whole essay, makes it seem like you’re being deliberately obtuse about the role culture and prejudice plays in people’s entertainment choices.

    You’re not gay, so why should you be bothered by a Homophobe? Why should anyone? Orson Card doesn’t offend you, so why can’t those whiny gays just get over it?

    But the minority readers, and viewers are going to be sensitive to and react to different messages, both in the culture and in the work, and I would like to reiterate, just because you didn’t see a homo- subtext in the book doesn’t mean that others haven’t (admittedly, not all of it necessarily negative).

    Going back to the Spike Lee example, both Lee and Card have made a point of pushing their own personas into the pop culture discourse. So it’s not just the soapy housfruas who think that Card is a “small minded homophobic bigot” , or that Lee is a “loudmouth angry black guy” – both men have made it a point of spreading their ideology and opinions into the larger cultural discussion. They have both actively campaigned for and against causes that they felt passionately about.

    Which leads us to the Enders Game movie. You are right to observe that Card’s already been paid, and that many people have worked on the project and it’s no longer just one man’s vision.

    But, this is as much a war of Public Relations as it is a personal attack from (and on) Card. He’s out there now more than ever, promoting his ideologies. And now he has a multimillion dollar marketing campaign behind him. I don’t think it’s unreasonable that the people he attacks so virulently would stand up and say “No!”

    It’s also completely reasonable that these people would band together and say, no we will not support this movie. There are lots of good books and lots of good movies out there, why spend your precious time and money supporting the people that actively mean to do you harm? Ugh.

    So yeah, you don’t have to avoid Ender’s Game, you don’t’ have to sign any petitions, because you don’t understand the conflict. But to call out the people who do understand it, and feel passionately about it and call them names like “Jackasses” and “hausfraus” is pretty low.

    ps – I know you don’t have any ill will towards anyone, but you asked the question and I’m responding to the issue the way you presented it.

    pps – Damn boy! You need yourself an editor. 540 words before you got to your THESIS SENTENCE. Imma start a petition to boycott further booker.info’s based on that!

  2. Hrm, I had a good clue on where you were going with this in the first paragraph. Granted, I can agree with you on just letting the art/work/music be what it is, regardless of it’s creator, there are times when yeah, I gotta step way, but I’d never chastise or talk down to a person for not feeling the same way as I do. We’re adults here, and not everyone likes the same things or has the same thoughts, and I’m glad, for otherwise we would be some dull motherfuckers!

    Taking Card and his creation on directly, I admit he writes a nifty book(I just recently read it), and mind you, it was entertaining at times, it was not something I would hold up and go “SEE IT! READ IT!” to the masses in earnest. I myself have two things that Card would probably not be keen on, but would hopefully be willing to agree to disagree on, those being I’m not religious, and I am for equal rights for GLBT folks.

    Card IIRC is Morman and I have did a modest amount of research on Mormons(and most other judeo-Christian outfits), as well as have had in depth conversations with and severe arguments about religions from various sects. However, between his beliefs(anti-homosexual) and religious choices/lifestyles, I’m not a huge fan of his(yes I’m condensing here), however, I don’t like/dislike him, mainly cause I don’t know the guy, but based on those two things, I would surmise there would be some friction between us if we did know each other.

    That said, I don’t begrudge people for wanting to see or not see this film or read his works, it’s their call and who am I to tell them otherwise? I don’t hack on friends that eat at chick-fil-a cause of their beliefs, but I don’t for go there personal reasons(but they still have damn good chicken) I don’t feel like delving into in a semi-public arena.

    I say be you(cause ya know, we like shirtless figures, boxes and on occasion, pineapples), everyone else be themselves. Move along folks!

  3. I agree with the general principle of what you’re saying. With some authors and their works, sometimes you just have to let these things go. There is a certain “product of the time” allowance that needs to be made to certain concepts and ideas that society-at-large no longer abides. I’m not saying to ignore it entirely, but overreacting and trying to make it palatable to our new sensibilities can be just as troublesome.

    However… “some authors and their works” is key in what I said above. In speaking of the Ender’s Game/Orson Scott Card controversy, you’re stepping in a much bigger mud puddle than I think you’re aware of. It’s not as simple as “he doesn’t like gays in his personal life”. Card has written about how New Yorkers deserved 9/11 for being too liberal homo-friendly. The movie is based on a book that the guy is using the proceeds of to fund the disenfranchisement of people’s equal rights. He has made it impossible to separate him from his work and judge each by their own merits.

    This is where your introspection unfortunately stumbles. With some authors you can indeed sidestep their personal beliefs and enjoy works that are free of that taint, but Card has intrinsically linked them and people are reacting accordingly. To support the work is to support the man, and in supporting the man you support his beliefs. Some authors and their works ARE like that, and you don’t make any allowance for it.

    Topics like this are a complicated lifelong learning process and dialogue with others. This post gives the impression that although you’re the only one talking, you have learned all you needed to, reached the correct conclusion, and the conversation is over.

  4. Wow. So Hunter completely focused on the wrong parts, and even got entire facts mixed up. Did you read too fast or just have trouble following stream of conscious thoughts?

    Starts out nice enough then quickly goes into condescending toward Matt. Don’t even try to say you weren’t, with shit like ‘whiny gays’ being used as if he said it. Way to go.

    The hausfraus reference had zippo to deal with OSC.

    For fucks sake, if a fictional story is good, and someone won’t read it because the author is another race, that person is a jackass, but if someone only reads fictional stories by a person of their race, how is that not being a jackass? It doesn’t take much reading comprehension to infer that Matt isn’t saying a minoirty kid can’t look up to an author thats also a minority. Saying otherwise is being obtuse. ;P

    Also for fucks sake, because really, Spike Lee? You even say Spike provides insights into minority culture in his works. Right? So you might say that Spike Lee movies are influenced by his personal bias? That race is an important part of the work he does?

    Because, and here’s where reading comprehension is important, Matt says “And for the purposes of this post, the untainted kind is the product I’m talking about.” Spike Lee makes movies about black culture, so thats not what this is talking about.

    If Spike Lee were ‘a loudmouth angry black guy’ but made movies that were not ethnic centric, then you could bring it up.

    And oh, please do tell us what anti-gay things happen in Ender’s Game. Be specific. I’ll go get some popcorn.

    Am I being bitchy? Nahhh. Condescending? Well, whaddayah know. ^_^

    Outside of all that, Hunter has a point. If some people want to boycott Ender’s Game, they can. Trying to send a message like that is a good thing, so stand up for what you believe in.

    BUT if you think this movie is his ‘multimillion dollar marketing campaign’ against gays, you’re just as much of a paranoid nutjob as he is.

    Me? If I boycotted everything that didn’t like me or that I didn’t like, I wouldn’t be able to live. Food companies, manufactured products, not just damn movies.

    I think Ender’s Game is a motherfucking awesome book. Sorry, Matt. :P And you know what? Ender’s Game is bigger than Orson Scott Card. I loved those books before I knew he was an asshole, and I’ll keep loving them in spite of him being an asshole.

    I WILL be watching Ender’s Game, so my friends and I can complain about how badly they adapted the book. ^_^ It’s one of ‘my’ facets.

    Oh and hi Bosch! LOL

    But I am srs, Hunter. I’ve got the popcorn, you get the details on how the book is anti-gay.

  5. Luke! You comment ninja’ed me. ^_^

    And your comment makes good sense. But I stand by my comments about Ender’s Game.

    OSC is an asshole with a loud mouth. That blows. Really. :(

    But I read Enders Game when I was in gradeschool. I didn’t know who OSC was, or what he was going to say years later about 9/11 and homosexuality.

    So because OSC is an asshole I have to stop enjoying the book? Whether I buy a ticket or not he’s still going to be an asshole, and Ender’s Game will still be Ender’s Game.

  6. @Tophat: Some people hate Chick-Fil-A’s stance on gay rights, and yet they still eat there. Recognizing the connection between the things you like and the things you disagree with is a separate matter from what you do about it. I don’t agree with the outsourcing of jobs and reliance on cheap foreign labor, yet I still buy plenty of products that result from it.

    There’s a certain truth to the sentiment that if you avoided all the things you disagree with, you wouldn’t be able to do anything. Everyone has to pick and choose their battles, and personal beliefs and influences will determine what those battles are. At the risk of sounding pithy, the real crime is ignorance. When our neighbor reacts to a social injustice, it behooves us to become informed and understand why they feel so strongly. We don’t necessarily have to join their cause, but it does them a disservice to simply react to their reaction. With respect to Matt, I believe this is where he stumbled.

  7. Well put. ^_^ But how is Matt ‘simply reacting to their reaction’? He said the OSC thing is what started thinking about this, but it was not the whole point. I think he was going for the bigger picture, not just OSC.

    But yeah he probably should have made some kind of statement in it that said OSC is an asshole. Cmon, WE know his opinion on that. We’ve been on here for years if you’re the same Luke. And its easy to get that opinion from the story. But some people need it spelled out for them, and Matt doesn’t need to come off looking like he’s okay with that kind of homophobia.

  8. In my experience, stream of conscious writing can be a wild ride. It changes as it goes along and there doesn’t have to be a clear point because it’s about the journey. Matt, I really liked this piece.

    If you were trying to make a concrete point, an essay would be better. ^_^ But were you trying to make a concrete point?

  9. Sorry for the late replies, everyone.

    Here’s my short response: This post is not about someone who has never heard of Ender’s Game before the movie. It’s about someone who liked Ender’s Game before Orson Scott Card started publicly pushing his crazy.

    Actually, no. It’s not. It’s about, “What if your FAVORITE __________ turned out to be a jerk?”

    Orson Scott Card is just an example. The emphasis there is FAVORITE.

    And honestly, if a gay dude that loved Ender’s Game doesn’t love it any more because the author hates him, then I can’t fault the dude for that… even if I think that’s a shame.

    My opinion still stands. If you love a work already, and you find out the person who made it is a jerk, hate the author not the work.

    I can understand if someone’s opinion on that varies. I can. I’d be conflicted myself, after all. But I know me, and I know I’d just get angry at the guy who changed. The work is still the same, and fuck letting some asshole change my opinion of it.

    ~Matt Booker

  10. Hunter,

    Tophat Diablo addressed a lot of what I was going to reply with, albiet a bit harshly.

    I don’t think I missed some of the taint in Ender’s Game, because I don’t think there is any in there. Honest. Go find some and then let me know what it was, because I’d genuinely like to hear it.

    As for the race of the author mattering to the reader. Where’s a picture of Captain Picard face palming when I need it? :) C’mon, man. Someone would have to either be a bit dumb or go out of their way to imagine injustices if they really thought I meant minorities can’t see minority authors as postive role models.

    And like Tophat pointed out, this post is talking about works ‘untainted’ by the author’s bias. So if the whole point of the book is to offer a racial perspective, then the race of the author matters since that’s kind of the point.

    So nope, Spike Lee is an invalid comparison to what I’m talking about here. And in addition, Spike Lee films are always Spike Lee’s ________. He cultivates a cult of personality. He doesn’t just make products, he makes Spike Lee products. He’s intrinsically linked to them. Same with people like Paula Dean. They sell their products just as much on their own name as they do the content of the product. For an author example, Stephen King. There’s a public image and a branding that goes along with it.

    Orson Scott Card may be vocal about his oppressive opinions, or actively campaigning to keep people from their rights, but who calls the book or even the movie ‘Orson Scott Card’s Ender’s Game’? The general public wouldn’t have even cared who the heck he was if it weren’t for his anti-gay opinions.

    .

    “You’re not gay, so why should you be bothered by a Homophobe? Why should anyone? Orson Card doesn’t offend you, so why can’t those whiny gays just get over it?” – hunter

    I don’t think that even deserves a response. Just imagine a picture of Fry from Futurama, silently judging with his eyes narrowed.

    .

    And as for the multi-million dollar marketing campaign behind him, are you talking about the movie, or the money from the movie that he’ll be using to continue to spout off his opinions?

    Because if you’re talking about the movie, again, Ender’s Game isn’t anti-gay. I’d sincerely like to hear how I’m apparently wrong about that.

    .

    “It’s also completely reasonable that these people would band together and say, no we will not support this movie. There are lots of good books and lots of good movies out there, why spend your precious time and money supporting the people that actively mean to do you harm? Ugh.” – hunter

    Sure, people have a right to do that. But like I said at the start of this whole post, this isn’t about people that didn’t know about Ender’s Game beforehand. That’s an entirely different ballgame, and the impressions from the media would play a hand in whether you even wanted to see that movie. Why get invested in it from the start if the guy who wrote the book says he hates you?

    And even if a person that did like Ender’s Game now hates it, I can’t blame them much for that. I think it’s a shame, but it’s not unreasonable for them to think that way.

    .

    “because you don’t understand the conflict” – hunter

    Remember that picture of Fry? That again.

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    “But to call out the people who do understand it, and feel passionately about it and call them names like “Jackasses” and “hausfraus” is pretty low.” – hunter

    I called them that? How terrible!

    Wait, no I didn’t.

    If a person only reads books by authors of a certain race, then that person is a racist. And yes, they are a jackass.

    And I said some hausfraus follow soap operas. If I have offended any German housewives with that statement, I sincerely apologize. That’s a negative stereotype. No one should follow soap operas.

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    “I know you don’t have any ill will towards anyone, but you asked the question and I’m responding to the issue the way you presented it.” – hunter

    It’s okay. Given where you live and your personal life, I would expect this to be a subject that you’re passionate about. No worries at all. :)

    .

    “pps – Damn boy! You need yourself an editor. 540 words before you got to your THESIS SENTENCE. Imma start a petition to boycott further booker.info’s based on that!” – hunter

    This isn’t an essay at all. From the very start of the post, it’s a conversation. Those aren’t structured, they meander, and they eventually come to a conclusion, but it’s not a full on THIS IS MY POINT like the end of an essay. It’s just me talking to myself and sharing it with my readers, because I think there’s value to be had from it.

    I don’t think I was being subtle about it not being an essay. :)

    ~Matt Booker

  11. Bosch,

    Sounds good to me. The only thing I disagree with is that Ender’s Game is a good book, but I’m okay with you having the opinion that it is. :)

    ~Matt Booker

  12. Luke,

    You make some good points. I didn’t know about Orson Scott Card saying that about 9/11. What an asshole!

    The fact that Orson Scott Card is still alive and actively benefiting from the proceeds does indeed make this much more conflicting for people that want to like his non-biased products.

    If a person wasn’t already invested in them, and heard this kind of stuff from the guy, it’s more than reasonable to expect them to actively not want to. Why support an asshole? That’s an easy thing to answer.

    But I think it gets to be more of a sticky wicket when the person already liked the products. And for that, my answer is still that the product is still worth enjoying. I say that with resolve, but that doesn’t mean I don’t feel conflict in that decision. It’s just the one outweighs the other.

    As for Orson Scott Card being linked to his products as much as you say, I both agree and disagree with that. He’s not like Spike Lee or Paula Dean, where his name is the brand. So how loudly does he have to shout before his products are linked?

    Well, I’d say he’s done enough shouting that his products are linked now. But that doesn’t change that they weren’t linked before.

    Hence my opinion being that new people have no reason to want to like his products, but old fans shouldn’t feel bad for enjoying what they’ve been enjoying.

    And yes, this is a conversation, so it’s subject to changes, and it’s a big gray area in the first place. But I do like where the conversation took me, and feel both conflicted and confident about it.

    “We don’t necessarily have to join their cause, but it does them a disservice to simply react to their reaction.” – Luke

    Yeah, this whole post kind of is a reaction to their reaction. That’s just the nature of the conversation, since the Orson Scott Card thing was what stirred up thinking about this subject, which is a variation of one I’ve thought about before. (Robert E. Howard is my favorite author.)

    Orson Scott Card got spoken of a lot as the conversation went by, though. The post was specifically about ‘What if your favorite __________ turned out to be an asshole?’, but I should have put something in there to acknowledge the people finding out about ________ being an asshole before they knew about the product.

    To those people, keep standing up for what you believe in. I think it’s a good cause.

    And just so we’re clear here, I’m not defending Orson Scott Card. I’m defending those people who might feel guilty about enjoying something they already enjoyed before.

    ~Matt Booker

  13. Tophat Diablo,

    Hunter is very passionate about this subject. I appreciate the heated defense, but play nice. :)

    I’m still waiting on someone to point out how Ender’s Game is anti-gay. Pass the popcorn.

    Have fun with watching the movie. You’ll probably have a lot of material to complain to your friends about.

    I’m glad you liked the post, and yup, this was more about the conversation than the conclusion.

    And yes, in case I haven’t said it enough, Orson Scott Card is crazy, a nutcase, and an asshole. With what he said about 9/11, how could I not think that? That goes beyond just not wanting the government to let two dudes get married, and straight into unintentional self parody.

    How twisted must someone’s mentality be, especially when they’re a public figure, to think, “Oh, hey, there were a lot of people that just died. It’s super tragic. I’ll announce to everyone that it’s because they liked these people that I hate.”

    ~Matt Booker

  14. I think the problem is you’ve picked an example that doesn’t illustrate your point well. Card can’t be seperated from his work because he is actively attempting to change society, and is in part able to make this attempt because of his work. One of the best ways people have to respond to this is to actively boycott his work, depriving him of income.

    You posed the question “But what if that person thought that the holocaust didn’t happen, or was a member of the KKK?” I think you need to appreciate there is a (potential) difference between those two things. Someone who doesn’t think the holocaust happened isn’t necessarily doing anything with that thought. Someone who is a member of the KKK is actively making the world a worse place. So, I could be friends with someone who doesn’t think the holocaust happened. I’m sure we’d argue a lot or eventually have to agree not to discuss the subject. I could not be friends with someone in the KKK, and would encourage others to avoid them in every way possible.

    Card is actively trying to make the world a worse place. It’s no longer a question of difference of opinion, it’s a matter of making it clear that these views are not acceptable. The best way to do this is to boycott his work, as not only will it have a direct impact on him in the way he wishes to have a direct impact on gay people, but it raises awareness of the issue.

    And seriously, dude’s an asshole. Don’t put money in his pocket.

  15. Thanks for the response, Sledge. You make good points. :)

    My best response is the one I’ve posted in the follow up to this one.

    ~Matt Booker

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